Hermes 4 70B vs Qwen3 8B

Hermes 4 70B at $0.149 in and $0.460 out and Qwen3 8B at $0.135 in and $0.523 out — per million tokens, from the same wallet.

Hermes 4 70B

Nous Research

0.11¢

for a client proposal

$0.149 in · $0.460 out / 1M

131K context · released August 2025

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Qwen3 8B

Qwen

0.11¢

for a client proposal

$0.135 in · $0.523 out / 1M

131K context · released April 2025

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Asking all both at once — identical prompt, identical context — costs about 0.22¢ for a typical client proposal.

At a glance

Cheapest input: Qwen3 8B at $0.135 per million tokens.
Cheapest output: Hermes 4 70B at $0.460 per million tokens.
Identical context windows: 131K tokens each.

Cost per task

Estimated totals at the rates above. Solid bar is input, lighter bar is output.

Quick code fix

2K in · 500 out

Hermes 4 70B

0.05¢

Qwen3 8B

0.05¢

Draft a client proposal from notes

5K in · 800 out

Hermes 4 70B

0.11¢

Qwen3 8B

0.11¢

Context-heavy session (Alyph workspace)

155K in · 4K out

Hermes 4 70B

needs 155K ctx

Qwen3 8B

needs 155K ctx

Analyze a 50-page legal contract

35K in · 1K out

Hermes 4 70B

0.57¢

Qwen3 8B

0.52¢

Large architecture refactor

250K in · 3K out

Hermes 4 70B

needs 250K ctx

Qwen3 8B

needs 250K ctx

Solid part of each bar is input tokens, the lighter part is output. Models that don’t fit a task are marked instead of priced.

Cost vs Token Amount

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80% Input20% Output

Hermes 4 70B

Qwen3 8B

Adjust the ratio slider to change how output tokens influence the final price for equivalent workloads.

Pricing

Hermes 4 70B

Qwen3 8B

Input / 1M tokens

$0.149

$0.135

Output / 1M tokens

$0.460

$0.523

Specs

Hermes 4 70B

Qwen3 8B

Provider

Nous Research

Qwen

Released

August 2025

April 2025

Context window

131K

Max output

—

Input

Text

Output

Text

Reasoning

Shows its thinking

Knowledge cutoff

2024-08-31

2025-03-31

Try it with real numbers

2K tokens in · 500 tokens out.

Hermes 4 70B

Nous Research

0.05¢

for this task

57% input · 43% output

Full pricing →

Qwen3 8B

Qwen

0.05¢

for this task

51% input · 49% output

Full pricing →

All 2, same prompt and context: 0.11¢. That is the entire cost of the comparison.

Your $5 welcome credit covers about 4,718 of these.

Which should you pick?

On price, Qwen3 8B is the cheapest of the two on a typical task, at about 0.11¢.

Or don’t pick. Send the identical prompt to all both, read the answers side by side, and keep the winner. How to run a fair bake-off →

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Questions, answered

Which is cheaper, Hermes 4 70B or Qwen3 8B?

On a typical client proposal (5K tokens in, 800 out): Qwen3 8B at 0.11¢; Hermes 4 70B at 0.11¢. Long prompts can change the order when long-context rates apply.

Which has the largest context window?

They are identical — 131K tokens each, about 190 pages.

Can I run Hermes 4 70B and Qwen3 8B side by side on Alyph?

Yes — that is what Alyph is built for: the identical prompt with identical context to all 2, answers rendered side by side, billed from one wallet. This exact combination costs about 0.22¢ for a typical task.

Ask both at once

Identical prompt, identical context, answers side by side — about 0.22¢ for a typical client proposal. Free to start, with $5 of credit.